Stop regime change, SA tells West

Vusi Mavimbela . . . "We come from the same history of colonisation and that moving forward we should never forget where we come from.”

Vusi Mavimbela . . . “We come from the same history of colonisation and that moving forward we should never forget where we come from.”

Tichaona Zindoga Political Editor—
Western countries should stop pursuing regime change in Zimbabwe but work with Harare to find common ground on political and economic issues, outgoing South African Ambassador to Zimbabwe Vusi Mavimbela has said. In a wide-ranging interview in Harare on Thursday, Mr Mavimbela reflected on his five years in Zimbabwe during which time he facilitated inter-party talks between Zanu-PF and the opposition MDC formations which saw the creation of the inclusive Government.

“Our position throughout has been that it doesn’t help anybody to disengage from Zimbabwe. Even when I interact with ambassadors from the European and Western countries here, the point I have always made is that you have to encourage your countries to engage not to disengage. Don’t move away from Zimbabwe, come in and engage, come and invest that is how we are going to be able to influence the situation in a positive way,” said Mr Mavimbela.

“Come and engage politically, don’t disengage. If you try and isolate Zimbabwe because you have got one problem or the other it doesn’t help. These problems these days are solved by actually engaging – and that has been our position all along. So when they come and ask us what is your view and your advice, and they ask us for advice most of the time because we are neighbours and fraternal countries and we have a history, I have always underlined ‘engage’ with Zimbabwe.

Elections, which were deemed peaceful, free and fair by the international community save for hostile Western pockets, were held in 2013 ushering the present Government led by President Mugabe and Zanu-PF.

Mr Mavimbela says with the facilitation job at hand he “hit the ground running” and arranged meetings that shuttled across the border and saw South African President Jacob Zuma visiting Zimbabwe on three occasions.

“That was a memorable time and happily that process culminated in the general elections in the country and the rest is history,” he gushed. Hence the West should come to the party. “Engage politically and engage economically. That is how you are going to make a contribution,” he said.

His sentiments come after recent revelations by former South African president Thabo Mbeki that Britain and the United States sought regime change in Zimbabwe and even considered a military invasion of the Southern African country.

In 2008, the US and Britain sought to have the United Nations Security Council intervene in Zimbabwe in the name of the controversial Responsibility To Protect principle but the move was thwarted by Russia, China and South Africa.

The outgoing envoy also called for the broadening of trade between Zimbabwe and South Africa, and the region at large, saying his country was unhappy with the skewed nature of economic relations that favoured South Africa.

He said industrialisation of the region would “enlarge the cake” and stem migration and potential conflicts emanating from competition over scarce resources and opportunities.

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  • Cde Mzvinavhu(Prof)

    Yes, we are reminded of how our misguided brother, the notorious Tsvangiruza had declared at Rufaro Stadium,“Mugabe go peacefully.If you don`t , we will remove you violently!“ We wondered then how a simpleton planned to remove our dear leader violently and who was “we“, until Cde Mbeki revealed the military threat from the stooge`s handlers, the West. The MDC stooge leader visited US puppet of the whites Obama and them passed via Eastern Europe to meet the NATO military general to compass an Egypt in Zimbabwe. But all was in vain because progressive forces in this world outweighed the satanic neo colonial lot. Long live our dear leader, Cde Mugabe!

    • Tsotso

      I thought so too Prof, the only problem is you think you are many when you speak for yourself. Of late you seem to shy away from commenting on issues involving the blue flame that seem to be eating our party, not sure which side of the fence you are now. Pasi nemhanduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!

      • Cde Mzvinavhu(Prof)

        I have not avoided any topic. Our party is still strong despite Cassandra speculations arising from the abrasive and schizophrenic war vet leadership. I am not given to fence sitting because there is no need for a fence . Our party remains led by our dear leader who has a term in government up to 2018 elections and his position in the party up to 2019 ZANU PF congress. I am not therefore privy to the fence you have in mind. You may be interested to know that I don`t intend to enter active politics, which is like a bullfight, where one may end in political hospital. Pasi ne premature succession agitation nokuti ndiyo mhanduuuuuuuuuu!

        • Gary WekuZviyambe

          Who would you blame for the missing $15 billion from our diamonds? Our President told us we lost that amount

          • Cde Mzvinavhu(Prof)

            It depends on how you interpret the issue of diamonds loss. To the erudite and sane readers, the issue is that when the system that was being used by the companies had weaknesses that are the target of correction, losses were bound to occur to such a level. Hence the need to improve and move on. Your foolish excitement and attempt to twist the issue is not plausible. I need hardly waste my educative time in trying to educate the incorrigible like you . You love glass without G and take away L , that is what you are , unfortunately, iwe Weku Zviyambe!

        • Jamba mu zimbabwe

          False Prof. Only the other day you were spinning whether it was 15 billion Zim or American Dollar. When further challenged you took the safe route for your backers and said that you were not a politician and the government would attend to that. Do acknowledge though that you are a puppet yourself by using someone`s currency without his/her express permission to do so. You keep his children and his countrymen fully employed by continually using his technology be in in flying, in writing, in communication technology like twitter, whattsapp, face book, in search engines such as google etc. and in this way you provide his people with over two million jobs. There is nothing you can do about that just like the proverbial dog barking at a passing train.

          • Cde Mzvinavhu(Prof)

            The US was built from black slavery and colonial capital by those who migrated from Europe. Europe has yet to pay reparations to Africa. The US racists killed the original citizens of America in the name of Jesus Christian civilization! Using one`s enemy weapon in a fight is an option as long it is used safely. That is supping with the devil while using a long fork as a survival tactic, not strategy. Are the West not satanically milking Arab oil while they are backing racist Israel, who say they are the only chosen human race by God! History will tell you about a number of inventions by blacks in Egypt and slaves in the US which is not acknowledged by the colonial West. Africa contributed to civilization in a number of ways. Colonial loot built the West too. No need for trying to praise colonial sinners for all the technical leadership. When I wisely speak of blacks` need for economic freedom stooges like you are switched on to make noise so that the down trodden fail to understand and take note of the voice of reason. Pasi nemhanduuuuuuuu!

      • Muturikwa we Gweru.

        We are many and Cde Mzvinavhu(Prof) is one among many of us. It is Tsotso who believes he can influence the tide against the Zimbabwean soil and spirits.

    • Isheanesu

      Dear oh dear oh dear! Reverting back to your defunct communist era rants typical of indoctrinated North Korean puppets and stooges is most unbecoming of a supposedly educated Prof. Over the last month or so you have made one or two excellent non-partisan forum contributions in line with Ambassador Mavimbela’s call for enlarged engagement between all parties and nations. Why not continue with the first small steps and you’ll soon find, join, and expand, the inclusive “we” the nation so desperately needs.

      • Cde Mzvinavhu(Prof)

        Misguided supporting of Western neo colonial aspirations should not be used as the yardstick for excellency in academia. Professors differ and some espouse Western interests to earn a living. SA refused to agree with regime change trajectory as the ambassador said, because they understand the casus belli between Zim and the West,i.e the land issue for which we got satanic sanctions. SA needs our support to dismantle their neo apartheid economic system and their land issue, in particular. There are matters of principle where it is difficult to embrace stooges. Its like eating with the devil while using a long fork ,like we did in the GNU. God has not ordained the US to headmaster this world in the interest of the West. I make no apology to your tail between your legs idea to appease the evil West.

        • SimonPetere

          They haven’t taken their land and will not do so anytime soon

      • Antitraitor

        The West haina zvaichaita ne North Korea. North Korea is self sufficient such that even the so-called evil sanctions have no effect. If you happen to know how powerful N Korea is militarily now, even your western devils cannot start a war with that country for they know for sure that they will regret.

        • Cde Njelele

          Thanks for advising the ignorant Isheanesu

        • chimurenga thah therd

          Imi va antitraitor, do you know how much suffering is in that country?

        • heya

          No, they just leave them to starve their people while shooting useless missiles into the air. He is no fool and knows if they aim at a country they will be destroyed but it satisfies the ego of dear leader to do that and of course to give the people an impression of strength. They will not bother much because they know saber rattling when they see it. And note that even China (remember that closest friend of ours) has imposed sanctions on North Korea so take your heads out of the hole and face the truth.

        • Bastirai

          Do you really think North Korea is self sufficient? Just a quick excerpt from a press statement issued by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) :
          United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on 29 January 2016 released US$ 8 million from the UN Central Emergency Response Fund (CERF) for severely underfunded aid operations in the People’s Democratic Republic of Korea (DPRK). These funds will enable life-saving assistance for more than 2.2 million people most vulnerable and at risk of malnutrition.
          In DPRK, chronic malnutrition (stunting) among under-five children is at 27.9 per cent, while 4 per cent of under-five children are acutely malnourished (wasting).
          Around 70 per cent of the population, or 18 million people, are considered food insecure. Food production in the country is hampered by a lack of agricultural inputs and is highly vulnerable to shocks, particularly natural disasters. Due to drought in 2015, 11 per cent of the main harvest was lost.

  • Kuta Kinte

    CANDID TALK, do not be the class teacher where you walk around with your red pen. Focus on the main theme of the story and contribute positively.


      So you are saying l should not worry myself with whether or not an event happened as reported?

      Sorry bro. I prefer to relate to real events. As long as an event is not proven to be in the realm of reality, then it is not worth my time cause l am not an idealist.

    • ProudZimbabwean

      unopenga kufarira nhema nxaaa!

  • Mangwende we Chinhoyi

    This is good news from a fellow African. If you see it as propaganda then satisfy yourself.

  • Pidigori

    Please tell this Vusi to mind abt SA issues and stop talking on behalf of Zimboz and fuck’n go away. We know better what’s best for us and it’s none of his fuck’n business. Stupid Zuma bootlicker &dont come back to Zim ever again.

  • Collin Mackenzie

    It’s great news indeed

  • sambiri

    Regime change is on the minds of the victims. Hallucinations and diverging attention on why the country has gone from being bread basket of Africa to being a begging beg of Africa.

  • ProudZimbabwean

    There is clearly something wrong as your heading shows, what is the matter where is the problem, seems to me Mavimbela is saying there is a crisis! and the west must help with this self inflicted situation and lack of pragmatism by Zanu pf, otherwise why else would we be having this kind of narrative in a normal country Mr Herald Zindoga?

  • Zatta Zvayi

    What regime change is being talked about here? Why is ZANU so afraid of a new political dispensation which is to be driven by Young Zim Turks? Why should ZANU be so myopic that each time there is talk of a new political wave on the horizon they talk of regime change agenda sponsored by the West? This is tantamount to saying we Zimbos cannot think for ourselves.
    ZANU does not have the divine right to be ruling the country..Even though they keep using the liberation war as an ilibi, let us say this: Any Zimbabwean could have fought that war. We have ex combatants who are now being treated like non entities by Amafikhizolo.
    We are for change championed by our own people to benefit our own people not a select few.
    So Mr Ambassador fare the well but report back home that Zimbabweans are languishing in their own country and the nation is waiting for men and women who can stand up and say: Enough is enough! What goes round comes around Mr Ambassador, your rainbow nation’s time hath run its compass..

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  • Cde Mzvinavhu(Prof)

    Which nyaya? See my response above !

  • Cde Mzvinavhu(Prof)

    You are trying to advance your MDC politics only. No one promoted the looting of diamonds. During the GNU the then MDC leader as PM visited Chiadzwa and also Parly Committee. The records are there and they spoke on their findings , which missed the deeper problems. Remember that during the GNU MDC controlled the Economic ministries and MDC was in the CABINET full time. So don`t try cheap politics against our government now. Did MDC resign from the government or they lost in 2013. Giving licences to companies does not mean sharing their crimes/weaknesses or looting. Your reasoning is clouded by your frustrated politics. In practice, people are employed, but if they commit fraud for some time, you don`t blame the employer but appropriate action is taken when you become aware of it.

    • Gary WekuZviyambe

      What happened when Biti raised concern over the Marange diamonds issue? Was he not called a sellout for raising the alarm when he said that the Ministry of Finance was not getting any diamond revenue? For the umpteenth time, I am not and will never be an MDC supporter. Why do you always try to divert sound arguments by labelling fellow contributors as MDC? Stick to the discussion.